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    Re: SFS 447V Harrier Project

    The EMU black looks like a good bit of kit. I’ll be really interested to see how this works out, combined with the PDU. It’s something I have to tackle for my project soon. Their key pad options look better than most too.

    Do I see three little Harrier stripes laser cut into your new bracket?

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    Re: SFS 447V Harrier Project

    Quote Originally Posted by beeRS View Post
    The EMU black looks like a good bit of kit. I’ll be really interested to see how this works out, combined with the PDU. It’s something I have to tackle for my project soon. Their key pad options look better than most too.

    Do I see three little Harrier stripes laser cut into your new bracket?
    The PMU is going to be a brilliant addition to the car, if I hadn't won the ADU Display I properly would have gone with a more basic setup. It will be interesting to see what I can do with it, the configurability is amazing. I was very tempted by the Haltech keypad. Good to hear someone else on here is looking at the ECU Master stuff, we might be able to help each other down the road to get them working

    I have been putting little Harrier logos everywhere lol, I know it's not going to be the most original car but it's a nice little reminder that the car is a Harrier

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    Re: SFS 447V Harrier Project

    Haltech looks good too, but I think the ECU Master key pad is better suited to our old skool cars. I’m still a long way off this stage in my project, so I’ll be watching and learning.

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    Re: SFS 447V Harrier Project

    Ordered the keypad last week and couldn't resist playing with it, the mount is defiantly getting there now. I have decided to add a bulkhead connector to it though because it will help tidy up the wiring.













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    Re: SFS 447V Harrier Project

    The wait is finally over, colour is going on the car

    All going well the interior should be blue tomorrow, the bodyshop want to paint the engine bay so we have painted the chassis rails to allow the front suspension to stay on while at the bodyshop.























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    Re: SFS 447V Harrier Project

    It's been a crazy four days but made huge progress on the car, painting the interior was a complete nightmare. I can say for sure that we are never painting a car with a full roll-cage ever again, 7 hours of pure pain trying to get everything covered. It's not perfect but I'm happy with how it turned out. It may be revisited while at the body shop before the car is fully painted but we will see.











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    Onto building the car up enough to get it rolling, trying to find all the bits and nuts/bolts was fun. The axle and all its brackets are now fully welded up.

    It's brilliant to see it sat on the floor for the first time in 3 years














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    Re: SFS 447V Harrier Project

    Cracking and I feel the pain while painting the interior

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    Re: SFS 447V Harrier Project

    coming together nicely, can i ask where did you get the brake, clutch reservoirs from please.

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    Re: SFS 447V Harrier Project

    Quote Originally Posted by big steve View Post
    coming together nicely, can i ask where did you get the brake, clutch reservoirs from please.
    Hi Steve,

    The pots were done by CNC Performance, drop him a call I'm sure he'll be able to sort you out


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    Re: SFS 447V Harrier Project

    Massive up on the car, I’ll let the photos do most of the talking but it’s all painted and back home.

    The outside had multiple coats of high build primer that were blocked down with 320 and then 500, followed by a wet on wet primer, topcoat and lacquer.

    The inside was also redone because my effort was crap, your see in the photos that the interior was masked up into sections which was a brilliant idea. Similar to the outside the interior was keyed up more wet on wet primer followed by topcoat and lacquer.

    I can’t thank Paul at the Bodyshop enough, the car has turned out amazing I couldn't be happier with it




























































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    Re: SFS 447V Harrier Project

    looking really nice Simon ,on the track this year ?

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    Re: SFS 447V Harrier Project

    Quote Originally Posted by v6gerry View Post
    looking really nice Simon ,on the track this year ?
    Thanks Gerry, I'm not sure about getting on track this year but it would be nice to see it on the road this year

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    Re: SFS 447V Harrier Project

    The car looks brilliant

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    Re: SFS 447V Harrier Project

    Quote Originally Posted by rallyrob View Post
    The car looks brilliant
    Thanks Rob

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    Re: SFS 447V Harrier Project

    Your comment about painting the car with the cage has had me thinking as well.

    Mines going to end up with a full weld in cage. I was hoping to have a go at painting that myself.

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    Re: SFS 447V Harrier Project

    Quote Originally Posted by rallyrob View Post
    Your comment about painting the car with the cage has had me thinking as well.

    Mines going to end up with a full weld in cage. I was hoping to have a go at painting that myself.
    I think if we were to try again it would have to be masked up into small sections because you can't stop the overspray and airborne crap going everywhere, being inside the car doesn't help either.

    Even with the car in a proper spray booth, I've still got a small amount of denibbing to do on the gearbox tunnel and so on

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    Re: SFS 447V Harrier Project

    That’s looking amazing! This stage of a build is probably everybody’s favourite.

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    Re: SFS 447V Harrier Project

    Pictures speak for themselves, paintwork looks as good as the build. Looking forward to seeing it come together

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    Re: SFS 447V Harrier Project

    Nice work, totally understand your pain with painting the interior
    Great colour choice ��

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    Re: SFS 447V Harrier Project

    Thanks guys

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    Re: SFS 447V Harrier Project

    How's this project going?
    Is it too early to ask how you're getting on with the ECU Master configuration? I think I'm going to use their PDU-16, EMU Black and keypad, but sticking with conventional gauges.

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    Re: SFS 447V Harrier Project

    it all takes a lot of time you still have loads to do just in the build up , looking really nice tho

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    Re: SFS 447V Harrier Project

    Quote Originally Posted by beeRS View Post
    How's this project going?
    Is it too early to ask how you're getting on with the ECU Master configuration? I think I'm going to use their PDU-16, EMU Black and keypad, but sticking with conventional gauges.
    I have done a lot of prep work on the ECU Master software, you can create your base map/files with the ECU/PMU software in "offline mode"

    The wiring documentation is going well, I have planned out nearly all of the connectors for the entire car in Excel. I know what pin does what and where it needs to go. I'm going to build the boot sub loom first so watch this space

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    Re: SFS 447V Harrier Project

    Only managed a few hours on the car this weekend but got the fuel pump mount bolted in and the pump to start measuring how much fuel line I need to order.

    I also created the wiring loom layout and routing template to take the measurement from to create the boot sub loom











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    Re: SFS 447V Harrier Project

    I've made good progress on the wiring and fuel lines in the boot. I have created an excel spreadsheet with every pin and where it's going, which has made life much easier.

    I got carried away and forgot to take photos of creating the boot loom but here's the finished result. I have used Thin wall automotive wire along with Tesa 51608 loom tape so I can make changes in the future if I need to, it has really good abrasion resistance and high-temperature resistance of 105c. Under the Tase tape, I've used high-temperature Kapton tape for the branch points and along its length to keep it all bundled together.

    Also made up the first of many fuel lines, this combined fuel pump and swirl pot is going to look really good once all the lines are made up.













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    Re: SFS 447V Harrier Project

    Carrying on with the wiring and fuel lines this past week, temporarily installed the lift pump to make up the first fuel line. I need to paint the bracket at some point but do I go black or blue

    placed the fuel tank in temporarily to work out what angle AN fittings I need to order, they should arrive next week.

    I have gone a bit ott with the rear light clusters but I wanted to be able to remove them easily and try to make the connections more reliable than the original spade connectors.















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    Re: SFS 447V Harrier Project

    Just a little update, I got the fuel lines finished off in the boot and the dry sump tank mounted. The 3D printed parts have been ordered and should be here this week hopefully, I went with an SLS print in Nylon. I can't wait to see what are like but it also means I get the AN 12 & 10 oil lines made up and the main battery cable to the bulkhead connector.


    Fitting the floor-mounted pedal was good fun, trying to get all the bolts tight was painful, also fitted the brake pots for the last time and made up the feed lines. I'm very happy with how clean the bias adjuster looks















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    Re: SFS 447V Harrier Project

    Impressive quality of work going on with this build.

    I see that you have soldered directly onto the spade connectors on the rear lights. I'm just learning about wiring and I hear so much debate about soldering. Do you find this to be a more reliable method than the spade connector?

    It's a good idea to put plug connectors in the wiring loom - it makes future changes easier. What type of connectors have you used on the rear lights - Superseal? and is the round one for the rear bulkhead?

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    Re: SFS 447V Harrier Project

    Thanks mate, much appreciated.

    The rear lights are a funny one, someone has gone to the effort to draw up the light cluster in CAD and have them remanufactured but not redesigned the bulb holders to something a bit more modern. I know the people trying to build a 100% original-looking car wouldn't like it but for something you can't really see once fitted does it matter that much?

    When I unboxed mine the two brass parts on each spade connector were a very loose fit and didn't make good contact with each other, that’s not going to last 5mins once the car is driven. Once corrosion sets into the exposed brass they are toast. Using solder in car wiring is very much a personal choice but no I don't think it should be used, I've only used it on the lights because it's the best way I could think of joining the brass parts together but time will tell if the solder fractures and fails. On all the wiring loom slices and joins I use open barrel splices for a crimped connection.

    The connectors I'm using are Deutsch DT & DTM, they are regarded as the best budget motorsport connector if there is such a thing, they have a great range of connectors and bulkhead connectors. I've got all mine from 3waycomp on eBay. The bulkhead connectors are square and need a very precise hole cutting I made a template to make it easier, if you are going to use the same I can send you the templates





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    Re: SFS 447V Harrier Project

    The 3D printed parts have arrived today, I'm super impressed with the quality of the Laser Sintered parts.

    For anyone that's interested I use 3D People, very helpful company

    https://www.3dpeople.uk/sls-3d-printing












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    Re: SFS 447V Harrier Project

    Made a start on trying to save some good wheel bearings from the standard hubs we had. Managed to get two nice SKF inners and 2 Timken outer bearings, washed them ready for the disc to hub bolts/locking tabs and some ZX1 Super grease which arrived yesterday

    Last night's efforts, got both hubs and disc's built up and on the car and one of the calipers


















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    Not much of an update on the car, I have been busy with Family trips to Legoland and stuff with my 3 year old before he starts school.

    The 3D printed parts have worked well, they really look the part. I have ordered the AN10 line and should have all the oil plumbing finished off to the engine bulkhead this week.

    Also started fitting the heat shield on the inner wing, it's really hard to make it look nice without getting too many wrinkles and creases.

    I'm hoping to get the engine in the bay within the next few weeks, so watch this space












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    Re: SFS 447V Harrier Project

    Quote Originally Posted by SimonD View Post
    Not much of an update on the car, I have been busy with Family trips to Legoland and stuff with my 3 year old before he starts school.

    The 3D printed parts have worked well, they really look the part. I have ordered the AN10 line and should have all the oil plumbing finished off to the engine bulkhead this week.

    Also started fitting the heat shield on the inner wing, it's really hard to make it look nice without getting too many wrinkles and creases.

    I'm hoping to get the engine in the bay within the next few weeks, so watch this space











    How’s this project coming along Simon? Is the engine in now?

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    Re: SFS 447V Harrier Project

    Quote Originally Posted by beeRS View Post
    How’s this project coming along Simon? Is the engine in now?
    Sorry for the lack of updates mate its been a rough year but things are looking up. I'll try and get a update on here soon as

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    Re: SFS 447V Harrier Project

    So here we go, a lot has been going on with the car but ill let the photos do the talking




















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    More work done on the interior parts


















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    This part will have two USB ports for programming the car




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    Re: SFS 447V Harrier Project

    Made a mount for the oil breather tank, fitted the electric water pump and the oil cooler are all plumped up now.

    The car is almost completely plumped up apart from the 3 short oil lines from the cooler to the sump and bulkhead












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    Next up with the can-bus steering wheel buttons and a mount for the display, both have turned out quite well
















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    Re: SFS 447V Harrier Project

    Blimey Simon, that’s cracking work ! Good to see how you’re moving on with it

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