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    Capri 5.0 V8

    Hi folks!

    In the last time I constantly read about all your projects and it was so interesting for me, that I decided to write something about my current Projekt. Besides you can now see, what I'm asking all my questions for...

    As some of you might remember, I joined this forum with the plan to replace the old 2,8i V6 of my 1983 Capri by a Cosworth 2,9l 24V from a Scorpio Cosworth in combination with a modified T-5 gearbox from a Sierra Cosworth RWD. I assumed to need about two to three month, a bit too optimistic as I very soon recogniced...

    This was my car before I started working on it:



    I wanted to swap the engine and by that occasion paint the engine bay as the blue color was partly loose and the original red color was shining through. When I started work in July 2005 I removed the engine and all the other things from the engine bay:







    As I scratched over the paint infront of the spring strut support bearing I found lots of filler an a rusty sheet of metal welded over the it.
    After I had removed this sheet, I could look right through to the floor. That was the point when I realized, that just a new engine and a bit of paint won't do it here...
    So this is what I found after the first stocktaking:





    Doesn't look too bad on the pictures now, but the metal remaining had become very thin so that I could easily make bumps in it with a screwdriver. So just removing the rust, closing the holes and painting it wouldn't have been a good idea.
    And once you start to search for rust, you definately gonna find some more:



    And some more here:



    And so on…

    Daniel

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    Re: Capri 5.0 V8

    ive been doing some rust hunting to and im not happy

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    Re: Capri 5.0 V8

    someones got a bit of welding to do but hey a bit at a time and you'll get there good luck

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    Re: Capri 5.0 V8

    if we banned screwdrivers restorations would be so much easier he he

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    Re: Capri 5.0 V8

    Quote Originally Posted by DanR View Post
    if we banned screwdrivers restorations would be so much easier he he
    That's absolutely right...

    Fortunately I'm over the worst part of the restauration in the meanwhile...

    When I started work, I began with the top plates. I decided to cut out the rusted top plates and replace them by self-made reinforcements as the ones you can buy were not inspiring my confidence.





    So I made six new top reinforcements from thicker sheet-metal, two of them formed the lower part of the new top plate on each side:











    And one big sheet formed the upper part:



    They were tin-coated then welded in and finaly I sealed the sheets with primer and silicone to prevent water getting between the sheets again. Furthermore the two reinforcements and the pan are together more than 5 mm thick, more than enough for reliable stability I guess. Maybe a bit more work than necessary, but I don't want to find those parts rusted again in a few years.


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    Re: Capri 5.0 V8

    Hi erveryone!

    Haven't had time to write sooner, lots of work on my car...
    After I had finished the top plates I had to do the sidemembers on both sides as they had a lot of rust between the sheets:





    After cutting out the rusty parts, I welded new sheets in:



    Then finally the bodywork was done and all metal sheets were in place, now I could start with the color. And that was quite a time consuming work as the old paint didn't want to come off! The blue paint came off with no problems, the original red paint needed a bit more time and paint remover but the grey immersion coating they used didn't come off. Not even after using different paint removers and an ankle grinder with a wire brush, nothing was really working, unbelievable... So I found myself standing in the bright sun, wrapped in overall, gloves, mask and cap sandblasting the engine bay. I can't think of anything I would rather do on a hot summers day...
    Then finally I could spray the new paint over the cleaned metal, and that is how it looks now:







    After thinking about painting it black, I chose this light gray color. It makes the engine bay bright and I think it looks quite nice together with the blue color on the outside. Furthermore it is much easier to work with and a lot cheaper than using matallic paint.

    In the meanwhile my plans for the Capri had completely changed....
    After I had the opportunity to test-drive a 24V-Capri, I knew that I would need something more powerful. It's not that a 24V-Capri is performing that bad, but the difference to my old 2,8i is not really obvious. And if the performance doesn't really improve, changing the engine, transmission etc is just too much work.
    Furthermore for the Cosworth Engine there are not many tuning- and service parts available in Germany (if you want to look into a pair of absolutely desperate and clueless eyes, you just have to ask your lokal Ford dealer for a new timing chain and tensioner...) and most of the cool stuff you put into your cars (Turbos, Compressors, NOS etc.) is either not road legal or pretty hard to pass the MOT with over here. Beside that the parts you get are really expansive.


    So my original idea came back to live and I decided to put in a 5.0 HO V8 engine from a Ford Mustang instead of the Cosworth. This means a bit more work as I had to adapt the Mustang 8.8” rear axle and the exhaust system to fit under the Capri. But when the engine is in place, it's not much more expansive than a Cosworth conversion. But the V8 hast a lot of advantages over the Cossie: It runs on regular pump-gas, is more durable, cheaper to service and of course it is much more powerful with lots of potential for tuning.

    I got myself a 5.0 HO engine complete with T-5 tranny, drive shaft, 8.8" LSD rear axle and all wiring and control units. In the meanwhile the engine is mounted and the rear axle in place. I will post some pictures the next days.

    Daniel

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    Re: Capri 5.0 V8

    Nice work Daniel

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    Re: Capri 5.0 V8

    Looking good there, Daniel.

    I'd had the same idea for the engine bay - good to see how well it works. Keep us posted with lots more pictures, please

    Out for a drive on a sunny spring day reminds me why I got this car

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    Re: Capri 5.0 V8

    I Like the way you did the inner wings

    A nice clean job

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    Re: Capri 5.0 V8

    Hi!

    Hope the wings will still look like that after the first tour. I'm a bit afraid, that the filler around the top plates might crack.

    Here are the next pictures of what happened on my Capri further on:

    After having the engine bay painted, I started to put all the disassembled parts back in place. In the meanwhile I had overhauled all those parts, they have all been cleaned from the dirt and rust of the past 20 years, then checked and if they were in good condition, they were either zinc-plated, powder coated or painted with POR15.
    The struts have been cleaned and painted, besides they got new adjustable support bearings on top.



    The track control arms came new as they needed to have an additional mount for the support strut going into my Capri.



    By that occasion I changed all the old rubber bushes and fitted HD rubber bushes in the front and poly bushes on the rear axle.



    One of the more complicated and time consuming things was to build new mounts for the rear axle and weld them on to make it fit under the Capri. The parts look quite simple at first sight, but they have a rather complicated shape an it was a lot of work to make the shock absorber bolt on to it in the right ankle. The mounts for the stabilizer were quite simple to build compared to the leaf spring mounts.



    After the old mounts were cut off the axle and the new ones were welded on, the axle was cleaned and painted black as well.









    Then the axle was installed using Ford Mustang U-bolt clamps and selfmade plates.



    As it became impossible to get new tires for the old 13" wheels (205/60 VR 13), I changed to 16" wheels with low-profile tires. So the new wheels still have the same diameter as the old ones





    Then finally the Capri came back on it’s new wheels!



    And this is how the new rear axle fits under the car









    After that I installed the new brakes in the front, new standard discs and AP Princess 4 pot calipers



    To cope with the increased amount of power, I got myself a pair of AP Princess 4 pot calipers from ebay.uk. I picked them up when I visited a friend of mine in Lincoln, and it was quite funny to explain the people from the airport security, why I was traveling with a brake disc and caliper in my hand luggage… But one of the guys knew what car they where for, Escort or Capri, and made a bet with his Colleagues. And when I told him, that he was rigth, I could pass without a problem.
    After searching for spare parts for month I got the right kit and fitted new pistons and seals to the freshly zinc-plated calipers:





    But now that I have the 16" wheels on the car, the brake looks somehow lost and tiny. So I'm already buying the parts for a big Wilwood brake system with Superlite 4 pot calipers and 310 mm Rotors. Event if it's a bit sad that I had so much trouble to get the Princess calipers over here and on my car, the small disc is still a limiting factor. And when I start searching for bigger discs and mounting brackets for the calipers, the costs will be nearly the same and the Wilwood system will still be more powerful at less weight.
    But before that the new engine and transmission will be installed an I will post some pictures of that soon.

    Daniel

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    Some of the pictures don't seem to come up at the moment... Hope they will be visible soon.
    Today a huge number of the german telecom personnel strated token strikes, so the communication and internet is partly paralysed...
    Last edited by Daniel83; 11-05-2007 at 12:03.

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    Re: Capri 5.0 V8

    Looking good mate. This months Hot Rod (or Car Craft, I can't remember as I get both) magazine has a good article on the 8.8 inch axle, think it may be online too, try hotrod.com or carcraft.com if interested.
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    Re: Capri 5.0 V8

    very nice mate, keep up the good work

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    Re: Capri 5.0 V8

    looks like youre doing some good work there.keep us posted
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    Re: Capri 5.0 V8

    Very nice

    I have owned 4 capris

    All had rot aroung the rear leaf spring hangers

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    Re: Capri 5.0 V8

    I'd like a V8 capri one day i think , nice work by the way

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    Re: Capri 5.0 V8

    @ Zebra3:

    Thanks for the tip! Haven't found the article on the 8.8 yet, but lots of other very interesting articles and instructions. A very useful page.

    Now some more pictures with the engine installed:







    The engine is really huge due to servo pump, "smog pump", A/C compressor, the big intake manifold and hundrets of meters of cables and hoses. A carbureted 302 is not much bigger than the V6 and there is much room on each side of the engine:



    But even with all the more or less useful ancillary components it fits quite well and so does the the bellhousing that looked far to big for the tunnel.
    One of the points where it gets really narrow is in the front where the crank pulley nearly touches the crossmember:



    Don't know if I can solve that by using a smaller underdrive pulley or if I have to cut a piece out of the crossmember. Hope the smaller pulley will do it, I hate to snip out healthy metal, especially when it's just been painted...
    Furthermore the hardy-disc of the steering column is very close to the left exhaust manifold. I have ordered a pair of stainless steel headers recently and hope that they'll fit better. Otherwise I'll have to change the rubber disc for a solid steel steering joint from a Fiesta or Escort...
    Finally the servo brake doesn't fit any more because of the larger width of the V8. I will try to install the brake more to the left side, like Vernon240 did on his MKII V8.
    An other thing that scares me is the installation of all the cables and the hoses, it's quite a jungle and I couldn't find a wiring diagram for the 5.0 yet...
    I will post some pictures of the engine monuts and gearbox support soon.

    Daniel

    PS: I'm rellay glad that you like my work so far! Most of you seem to be working on cars for many years and have an extensive knowledge. The Capri is my first attempt to work on cars...

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    Re: Capri 5.0 V8

    Hi!

    After lots of work I'm back with a few new pictures. This is one of the engine mounts, a combination of Mustang and Capri parts:



    And this is the gearbox support I made, using the rubber damper from the Sierra Cosworth gearbox support:




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    Re: Capri 5.0 V8

    Sh..! Pushed "submit reply" instead of "preview post"....

    So, this is the Mustang airfilter box installed in front of the right front wheel:



    It's a good place for it as the engine bay is already quite packed with the engine itself and in this position it gets the cold air right from the front of the car:



    But most of the time I worked on my selfmade watts linkage that became necessary because the rear axle is still not mounted centric under the car... I decided to build it myself, because parts for the 8.8 rear axle are not easy to find and parts like that are always expansive. Furthermore I'm going to use the normal tank and so I had only about 5 cm of space between differential and tank...

    So I started to build the base that will be fitted to the differential. Therefore I used 5mm steel and a 20 t press to get the parts in the needed shape:



    After some problems with shrinking of the steel due to the heat from weldig, I bolted it to the differential, made some welding points, then took it off and welded it to a steel table.







    I will post some more pictures when I'm at home, work is done for today WEEKEND!

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    Re: Capri 5.0 V8

    great work
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    Re: Capri 5.0 V8

    Ok, back at home...

    Now that the base itself was nearly finished, I started to build the "rocker", also made from 5 mm steel:









    The tube in the middle is made from stainless steel as well as the axle running through it:



    But first I had to build the upper holder and I spent quite some time thinking about how to mount it to the base. Unfortunately I had no picture where I could see, how others solved that problem... Finally I decided for the following layout:

    I made two rings from a tube on the lathe:



    And welded them to the base:



    Then I drilled a hole in the middle and welded a nut into the ring:



    Then the upper holder was made from a plate, two small tubes and two shims. When finished, it could be bolted on top of the base without having the bolts jut out of the holder:



    Then the axle was fitted and welded to the upper holder:





    (Parts immediately look twice as good when sandblasted )

    Now these parts were mostly finished, I made the bolts for the ball joints:





    Then the connecting rods had to be made:





    And then it was ready for the first assembly:





    Finally I ended up with a total height of under 4 cm, so enough clearance to the tank.
    In the meanwhile I closed the fastening ring of the base and put on some reinforcements. Now I'm working on it with a small grinder to smooth the welds and then I'll have it all zinc plated.

    Besides I have the exhaust system nearly done, a combination of Mustang catalytic converters and Mustang/Capri mufflers. I will post pictures soon.
    Furthermore I'm waiting for a few parts from the US, like underdrive pulleys that will ensure a safe clearance to the crossmember, a pair of stainless steel headers and the Wilwood 4 pot calipers for the big brake system...
    Bye for now.

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    Re: Capri 5.0 V8

    Daniel,

    This second time ive seen these on a capri.



    Hows this hook up etc,

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    Re: Capri 5.0 V8

    Some fantastic work you have done there Can't wait to see the finished car

    She's built like a Steakhouse, but handles like a Bistro

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    Re: Capri 5.0 V8

    Hi!

    These are special control arms that have an additional holder for a pair of struts to form a wishbone:



    The control arms are monted the other way around (left one on the right side, right one on the left) and the anti-roll bar is mounted in the lower holders (you only stick in through the monting without fastening the screw).
    Then a bearing block is welded to the frame of the car where the strut is mounted. This strut goes through the control arm, where once the anti-roll bar was:



    (red is the strut, yellow the anti-roll bar)

    This provides much better steering, braking without fluttering of the front wheels and it supports the control arm so that it can resist the increased forces when the car is made faster and uses bigger brakes.
    Furthermore there is an instruction form Ford that you should/have to use these struts when you drive wheels 7,5 inch or bigger.
    I'm really curious how the car will handel after all the modifications, but I was told that the additional struts in the front and the watts linkage in the back will improve the handling decisively.

    Here are a few more pictures of how the gerabox support and the watts linkage look when in place:









    It's about time the car get's finished and I can't wait to take it for the first tour... Hopefully I will be done in the next few weeks and have it back on the road before the summer is gone... pray:

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    Re: Capri 5.0 V8

    Nice one daniel, maybe one day my v8capri will be on the road again. Your using stainless steel on the watts linkage is that strong enought(nice bit of kit thougth) it doesnt have the tensile strengh as say 8.8 or 10.9 high tensile.

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    Re: Capri 5.0 V8

    Hi!

    Let's say, I hope it is, but I will see... By using stainless steel I wanted to avoid rust when water should get in there. But I chose a very strong type of steel, killed two steel drills when I tried to drill a hole in it. So I guess it should work. If not it's only one part and easy to make a new one on the lathe...
    All other parts are from normal steel and the bolts are all 8.8 or 10.9. You will not pass MOT over here with stainless steel bolts on security-relevant parts like vehicle suspension, drivetrain etc.
    What is wrong with your V8 Capri, is it not finished yet or damaged? Is it a Rover or a Ford V8?

    Daniel

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    Re: Capri 5.0 V8

    No not damaged just short of money.ITs a 1983 1.6 LS with a rover v8 still only 3.5 but about 240hp thinking about a 5lt converstion.I replaced all my suspension bolts with stainless with out checking out the tensile strength, a expensive mistake, will post some photos when figured out how to do it.

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    Re: Capri 5.0 V8

    Hi!

    Didn't have so much time to work on my car, University comes first...
    But nevertheless, I have done a bit of work.
    At first I got my new shiny stainless steel headers that look and fit fantastic.



    Now I have much more clearance to the steering column and enough room for a heat protection for the rubber disc.



    I also solved the problem with the servo brake. With new mountings the brake is now installed a bit more to the left and has enough clearance to the left cylinder head.
    The underdrive pulleys are installed too and fit just perfect. I now have about 3 cm clearance between crank pulley and crossmember.

    After I had solved these big problems, I thought, I could take out the tank, just to see, how it looks... And even if it has no holes in it, it was quite a bit rusty.



    So I cleaned it up with a wire brush and painted it with underbody coating. Then I found something really rusty: the fuel pump mounting. It was literally held together by rust.



    To build a new centerpiece I used our new rounding machine for the first time and it worked quite well.



    Then I applied some zinc spray and cavity sealing before I put the rubber core back in place. Hope this will last for an other twenty years...



    Now that the tank was out, I had enough room to build the new exhaust system. The catalytic converters and the mufflers in the middle are Mustang parts, the rear mufflers are the CSC ones that were already installed with the V6 engine. In the meanwhile the exhaust system is finished. Had lots of trouble till the oxygen sensors were installed in the right position and it is very narrow were the watts linkage is now mounted, but it seems to work.



    This week I got the needed parts for the wilwood brake and tried to install them. They look good and are really huge (310 x 32 mm) compared to the standard discs.







    But not enough with the cracks in the surface of the discs (see topic "wilwood-system" in "running gear"), these stupid discs don't fit.



    When I try to put the wheel hub back in place, it hits the steering arm. At first I thought the disc might be installed the wrong way round, but everything seems to be correct...
    Does anybody know, where the fault is???
    It's the BK2B-set for Escort and Capri. So why does it not fit???
    Hope to be back with a few more pictures soon.

    Bye, Daniel

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    Re: Capri 5.0 V8

    Dan, for the steering arm problem, you should have removable steering arms so just do as mk1ian did on his and spacer the arm away from the stub axle to give you enough clearance on the disk, then just reset the tracking

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    Re: Capri 5.0 V8

    another option would be to swap the track rod ends for rose joints as they are more compact

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    Re: Capri 5.0 V8

    There is an awsome amount of fabrication/engineering there! Wondering if i find horror on my engine change!? Keep up the posts, realy enjoyed reading it!
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    Re: Capri 5.0 V8

    thats looking well now

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    Hi guys!

    After not having done much to tell about, here are a few new pics of the progress on my Capri.
    In the meanwhile I got all the hoses and nearly all of the wires connected and mostly ready to go. I also made a new strut tower brace to fit arround the engine. Now I am building a torque link, that will connect the top of the engine to that brace and will limit the engines sideways movement during accelleration. I'm a bit afried that without that link the engine will move to far to the right and tear off the very short rails from the engines back to the heating as these are made mostly from copper rails (these are the most narrow 90° pipe bends I know and behind the Engine there is nearly no space at all).





    I also finished the watts linkage. Got most of the parts zinc-plated, only the diff-cover is painted as I will maybe make a new mounting bracket on the milling machine. But at the moment I'm quite happy with the result, especially when I installed it and it fits perfectly!
    But the best part was to adjust the rear axle. I thought I would have to use a wrench and some muscle strength but I could turn the struts without using a tool and could easily bring the axle into the right position!





    And now the final brake setup is found: Brembo calipers off a 911 Porsche (993), modified discs for a 730 BMW (316 x 28mm) and these Brackets that were originally made to be used on VW's:





    They are made from the same alloy that is used for brake parts on modern cars. As they come raw and unworked, the holes and surfaces had to be made on the milling machine, but after that they bolt to the Capri struts as if they were made for it. Then the discs had to be redrilled to fit the four-bolt hubs and the hubs had to be milled down by 2mm to fit into the discs. Now all parts are installed and it looks great! This is the right size brake kit for 16" wheels...







    At the moment EBC black stuff pads are installed and I'm very curious how they will perform on the road...
    But most of the work I've done is connecting the wires to all these sensors, relays, actuators... Now I'm almost done, the ignition switch is hooked up, so is the EEC module, the ignition and fuel system.
    Yesterday I tried to turn the engine over for the first time with ignition and fuel shut off. But there was only a click and nothing moved... Using an other battery, there was a growling sound, but still nothing moved. Now the starter motor seems to be faulty, the solenoid coil fails to pull the plunger into the coil. After I blocked the plunger, the starter turned the engine over with no problems.
    At least I know now that the ignition switch is hooked up correctly, but I'll have to get me a new starter. I will keep you informed and make a video when it runs...

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    It's a few days since I last updated this thread, so the good news first: the engine runs and I already took the Capri for a few little rides. And it goes like
    But one by one, there was still a lot to do before I could take it for a ride.
    I still had a lot of wiring to do and of course some more problems occured. At first the TFI ignition modul was broken and it took me days to find out. After waiting for almost three week I had a new one and the engine started for the first time!
    But it didn't run good as it didn't respond much to the accellerator. And it didn't run very long, after a few minutes the engine died and wouldn't start any more.
    Again it took me days and a very helpful US-forum to find out, that the dizzy was one tooth off...
    Only minutes later the engine was ideling smooth and responded immediately to every push on the pedal.
    The next problem was the servo pump that made terrible noise. To drive it I used the engine's flat belt, but the tension of it was too much for the pump's bearings. So I had to weld an additional pulley to the crank pulley and drive the pump by a normal v-belt.



    Lucky as I am I did that to my radiator when I took off the crank pulley:



    Man, I was so pissed off, especially when I found out, that this stupid thing was only used in a Scorpio/Granada 2,8i between 10/1985 and 11/1986 Now try to find an other one at your local scrap yard... As I didn't find one and don't want to pay an other 200 € for a new one I fixed it with aluminum reinforced epoxy putty and an aluminum clamp. Worked well, everything is tight.
    A little later the car was brought to a mate's shop where the compression struts were welded in.





    The exhaust system was completed and I added some heat shielding for the catalytic converters









    The instrument was fitted with the Mustang's water temperature gauge, oil pressure gauge and rev counter



    Furthermore I added the torque link



    An other problem was the alternator as it was not giving enough power at idle to charge the battery. Even with normal pulleys the alternator is too weak and with underdrive pulleys installed and a small battery you can really get into big trouble. So I decided to go for the modern 100 amp alternator of a 95 Mustang that gives much more amps at idle.



    Now I have around 14V at idle, that's quite a difference...
    But still the battery seemed to be empty every time it was running for a few minutes... After days of checking alternator, battery and wiring I found out that the starter has a heat soak problem. When it get's warm, it's to weak to turn the engine over... If I had found out a few days earlier I would already have passed MOT, so I have to wait until may 18th...
    In the meanwhile I drove some kilometers on the Capri and the difference is amazing. The acceleration is enormous even with the long 1:2,73 diff. On good tarmac I can push the pedal down completely in 2nd gear and pull up from 0 to over 100 km/h... The brakes bite like hell and because of the compression struts the steering wheel stays completely steady. No more shaking and rumbling under hard braking. Also the watts linkage fits and works great.





    The car goes around corners like never before and with a little push on the pedal the traction lock diff makes it very easy to go sideways...
    As you can see I'm more than happy and absolutely excited, can't wait to take it for the first bigger tour. I'll make some vids when I passed MOT...
    Last edited by Daniel83; 05-05-2009 at 17:11.

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    Re: Capri 5.0 V8

    Only just seen this thread, what a great build
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    Re: Capri 5.0 V8

    Excellent stuff Daniel

    That linkage is

    Out for a drive on a sunny spring day reminds me why I got this car

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    Re: Capri 5.0 V8

    Very nice Daniel, tell me where can I get those TCA's from?? please

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    Great thread. Sorry to dig this up again, but I was wondering why you heat shielded the cats? How are you finding it now you've had it (presumably) finished for a few months?

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    but I was wondering why you heat shielded the cats?
    in use cats get very very hot, in the region of 800 degrees C so its a good idea to heat shield them to stop then setting things around them on fire

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    @ Sven: I got those TCA's from WST, a firm that sells and produces parts for Capris near the place where I live. On http://www.capri-wst.de/cms/index.ph...d=27&Itemid=47 you can find the TCA's under "Querlenker" on the bottom of the page for € 127,- each. Sorry, but the page seems to be in german only. But you can try to send Peter a mail, he gets many parts he sells from the UK, maybe he can help u with that. If not, feel free to contact me on TS.

    @ Doireman: As Graham already said, the cats can get very hot and to have at least a bit of clearance I had to mount them very close to the floor panels so the MOT inspector said it was safer to use heat shieldings.
    After the first few hundred miles I can say that the car feels completely different. The car goes round corners much more precisely and feels a lot more stable, especially the rear axle. The brakes bite much better of course and the front wheels don't trembel any more while braking. A big difference to the cars handling previous to the build up.
    In addition to that the power and torque of the engine is quite impressive and the car goes much faster than before. But at the moment I'm not really sure, if the engine is running perfect. I have to check the ignition timing again. At the moment I only get 15 mpg / 18l/100km which is too much even for a some hard accelleration. With the long 2,73 diff the car would go arround 440 km/h when hitting the rev limiter at 6250 rpm Travelling at 140 it only runns at a relaxed 2000 rpm, so I think there is something not running perfect at the moment. Maybe I find some more horses too when I find the reason for it's fuel consumption...
    I still didn't make some good videos, but I've got a few new pics:









    If you stand a few meters away it looks quite nice



    The old and the new starter. In the meanwhile I have the same heat soak problem with the new one. There must be an other problem somewhere. Will have to swap the battery cable for a bigger one and hope it helps...



    One more pic from the front brake setup.



    Hopefully I'll remember to make a video before the season ends in octobre...

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